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elsi - February 28, 2008 03:37 AM (GMT)
Over in the last SFF swap, Giz played for the first time, but kept telling us that she felt intimidated. I posted a couple of books that I would recommend for someone who hasn't read SFF, and I figured it might be a good idea to collaborate on a list of SFF books that might be a good introduction to the genre(s).

Over at Project Gutenberg Australia, they define "SF" as being "Science Fiction, Speculative Fiction, Superhero Fiction, Swords Fiction, Sorcery Fiction, Spies Fiction, Supernatural Fiction and Scary Fiction."

Here is a quick list I put together for Giz ... definitely slanted toward a woman who hasn't read much (if any) SFF and wanting to make sure that the experience is pleasant. (I've updated the descriptions and included comments from Pepper.)

Science Fiction

Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. Ender Wiggin is a very bright young boy with a powerful skill. One of a group of children bred to be military geniuses and save Earth from an inevitable attack by aliens, known here as "buggers," Ender becomes unbeatable in war games and seems poised to lead Earth to triumph over the buggers. Meanwhile, his brother and sister plot to wrest power from Ender. Twists, surprises and interesting characters elevate this novel into status as a bona fide page turner. It captured the Nebula and Hugo Awards.

If you like this one, there are 3 direct sequels and then a parallel series (essentially the same events from the perspective of a couple of different characters).

The Rowan by Anne McCaffrey. The Rowan, a powerful but lonely psychic in charge of the Federal Telepath & Transport service, touches minds and falls in love with another of her ilk who needs help fighting extraterrestrials. "In this sensitive portrayal (expanded from the author's first published story, 'Lady in the Tower') McCaffrey draws a warm and vivid picture of a struggling frontier society," said Publisher's Weekly.

This is the first of five books (The Rowan, Damia, Damia's Children, Lyon's Pride,
The Tower and the Hive); again giving you more books set in the same universe if you enjoyed this one. I can also recommend anything else written by Anne. She's given us so much pleasure over the past 40 years.

Tunnel in the Sky by Robert Heinlein. The final exam for Dr. Matson's Advanced Survival class was meant to be just that: only a test. But something has gone terribly wrong...and now Rod Walker and his fellow students are stranded somewhere unknown in the universe, beyond contact with Earth, at the other end of a tunnel in the sky. Stripped of all comforts, hoping for apassage home that may never appear, the castaways must band together or perish. For Rod and his fellow survivors, this is one test where failure is not an option....

I love Heinlein's books. He produced a number of SF books that are classified as juvenile or young adult" fiction, but these books have just as serious topics as his books intended for adults. In some cases, the "juveniles" are even better than his adult fiction.

Rite of Passage by Alexi Panshin. In 2198, one hundred and fifty years after the desperate wars that destroyed an overpopulated Earth, Man lives precariously on a hundred hastily-established colony worlds and in the seven giant Ships that once ferried men to the stars. Mia Havero's Ship is a small closed society. It tests its children by casting them out to live or die in a month of Trial in the hostile wilds of a colony world. Mia Havero's Trial is fast approaching and in the meantime she must learn not only the skills that will keep her alive but the deeper courage to face herself and her world. Published originally in 1968, Alexei Panshin's Nebula Award-winning classic has lost none of its relevance, with its keen exploration of societal stagnation and the resilience of youth.

Similar theme as Tunnel in the Sky and it might be interesting to read both and compare the way in which the authors approached the subject.

The Revolving Boy by Gertrude Friedberg. Derv had always known that some day he would learn a frightening truth about himself. Now Derv knew the truth -- and terror became delight. He was the only human being to be born weightless in free flight. At last Derv felt wholly in tune with the outside influence which had turned and pulled him since birth -- the Direction.

Although this book has not been reprinted since 1980, it's worth finding a copy in a library or used sale.

Fantasy

I haven't read as much fantasy, so I don't have as many recommendations.

Alanna by Tamora Pierce. Call it fate, call it intuition, or just call it common sense, but somehow young Alanna knows she isn't meant to become some proper lady cloistered in a convent. Instead, she wants to be a great warrior maiden--a female knight. But in the land of Tortall, women aren't allowed to train as warriors. So Alanna finds a way to switch places with her twin, Thom, and take his place as a knight in training at the palace of King Roald. Disguising herself as a boy, Alanna begins her training as a page in the royal court. Soon, she is garnering the admiration of all around her, including the crown prince, with her strong work ethic and her thirst for knowledge. But all the while, she is haunted by the recurring vision of a black stone city that emanates evil... somehow she knows it is her fate to purge that place of its wickedness. But how will she find it? And can she fulfill her destiny while keeping her gender a secret?

First of a dozen books for Young Adults. Features strong women and girls; swords and sorcery sub-genre.

Over Sea, Under Stone by Susan Cooper. The first book in Cooper's highly acclaimed fantasy sequence, The Dark Is Rising, this novel sets the stage for all that follows, as the three Drew children discover an ancient map in the attic of their vacation home in Cornwall. With map in hand, the children begin their quest to find the grail and thwart the forces of evil. Alex Jennings, accomplished British stage and screen actor, is brilliant in this performance, capturing the emotions of all the children with deft inflection and pacing. He does an especially delicious job bringing to life the menace of the shadowy characters of the novel.

First of five books (Over Sea, Under Stone; The Dark is Rising; Greenwitch; The Grey King; Silver on the Tree) in an award-winning series. The Grey King won the Newbery Medal. The Dark Is Rising was the only Newbery Honor Book of its publication year. Two other books in the sequence were runners-up for Britain's Carnegie Medal.

Breeni - February 28, 2008 03:46 AM (GMT)
Ender's Game is a great suggestion.

CheriePie - February 28, 2008 04:12 AM (GMT)
I've always been under the impression that SFF stood for Science Fiction & Fantasy though, right? So can I assume you're just addressing the SF part of that here?

I've read Ender's Game, but that's actually the only of the ones listed that I have. :blush:

cheesygiraffe - February 28, 2008 04:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (CheriePie @ Feb 27 2008, 10:12 PM)
I've always been under the impression that SFF stood for Science Fiction & Fantasy though, right? So can I assume you're just addressing the SF part of that here?

I've read Ender's Game, but that's actually the only of the ones listed that I have. :blush:

Cherie she has fantasy listed too. Look again... :giggle: :hug:

CheriePie - February 28, 2008 05:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (cheesygiraffe @ Feb 27 2008, 11:28 PM)
QUOTE (CheriePie @ Feb 27 2008, 10:12 PM)
I've always been under the impression that SFF stood for Science Fiction & Fantasy though, right?  So can I assume you're just addressing the SF part of that here?

I've read Ender's Game, but that's actually the only of the ones listed that I have.  :blush:

Cherie she has fantasy listed too. Look again... :giggle: :hug:

Wow! I must really be feeling dopey tonight! I totally missed that part. :dunce:

Hmm... I haven't read any of those listed under Fantasy either. Though they're probably more epic or traditional fantasy than urban. Yeah yeah that's why I didn't see 'em... that's it! :doh:

giz-angel - February 28, 2008 08:58 AM (GMT)
No no not intimidated elsi, I said I was :scared: :lol:

I have added some of these to my wishlist already and I'm looking forward to seeing some more suggestions.

lexilewords - February 28, 2008 01:34 PM (GMT)
definately The Rowan series of books, Acorna series of books, I enjoyed the Magic Circle and the Magic Circle Opens moreso then the Alanna series by Tamora Pierce. If'n you doesn't mind young adult, East by Edith Pattou is a VERY good book (based upon the fairy tale 'East o' the moon, west o' the sun') as are the Faerie Tales by Dennis L. McKiernan.

Mercedes Lackey Elemental Masters is also very good (also based on Fairy Tales) and Linnea Sinclair writes good sci-fi with a little romance involved. Summers at Castle Auburn by Sharon Shinn is also a favorite.

The Rowan Series (or The Tower and the Hive series):
The Rowan
Damia
Damia's Children
Lyon's Pride
The Tower and the Hive

(also a two short stories that began it all 'The Lady in the Tower' and 'A Meeting of Minds'. 'The Lady in the Tower is covered in The Rowan and 'A Meeting of Minds' is covered in Damia, both were revised a very little bit for inclusion in a larger book series, both can be found in Anne McCaffrey's Short Story Collection 'Get Off The Unicorn' along with a couple of other interesting sci-fi stories).

The Acorna Series:
Acorna: the Unicorn Girl (with Margaret Ball)
Acorna's Quest (with Margaret Ball)
Acorna's People (with Elizabeth Ann Scarborough)
Acorna's World (with Elizabeth Ann Scarborough)
Acorna's Search (with Elizabeth Ann Scarborough)
Acorna's Rebels (with Elizabeth Ann Scarborough)
Acorna's Triumph (with Elizabeth Ann Scarborough)
(also there is a book called 'Unicorn Girl-the illustrated novel' which is about Acorna, but has a variety of authors and artists involved)

The Magic Circle:
Sandry's Book (uk title: 'Magic in the Weaving)
Tris's Book (uk title: 'Power in the Storm')
Daja's Book (uk title: 'Fire in the Forging')
Briar's Book (uk title: 'Healing in the Vine')

Circle Opens:
Magic Steps
Street Magic
Cold Fire
Shatterglass


((The Will of the Empress is meant to start a new chapter in the series, but thus far it is the only book out))

Faerie Tale Books:
Once Upon a Winter Night
Once Upon a Summer Day
Once Upon an Autumn Eve
Once Upon a Spring Morn
Once Upon a Dreadful Time

((they all interweave various fairy tales together, some are more strongly present the others and all have a sort of courtly elegance to them with the various French phrases and the obvious differences between the 'good' guys and the 'bad' guys--these are very black and white novels in regards to morals))

Elemental Masters:
The Fire Rose ( based on Beauty and the Beast )
The Serpent's Shadow ( based on Snow White )
The Gates of Sleep ( based on Sleeping Beauty )
Phoenix And Ashes ( based on Cinderella )
The Wizard of London ( based on The Snow Queen)
Reserved for the Cat (based on Puss in Boots. )

((They are all loosely connected by the same theme and 'world' design, but can be read in any order))

Linnea Sinclair:

Games of Command
Gabriel's Ghost
Down Home Zombie Blues
Finders Keepers
Accidental Goddess


And that's all I can think of to write about it all right now, but MY what a diverting 20 minutes that was!

elsi - February 28, 2008 02:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (CheriePie @ Feb 27 2008, 10:12 PM)
I've always been under the impression that SFF stood for Science Fiction & Fantasy though, right? So can I assume you're just addressing the SF part of that here?

At BO, "SFF" definitely stands for "Science Fiction & Fantasy", which is why I chose to call out "SFF" in the topic title. I thought it was cool the way the guys at Gutenberg Australia managed to compress the abbreviation down to "SF" and still keep Fantasy in the mix.

I did not intend to address just Science Fiction in this discussion. Since I read much less Fantasy than SF, I'm also looking for recommendations from the old hands. And who knows, I might even discover some Science Fiction I've not read.

elsi - February 28, 2008 02:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (CheriePie @ Feb 27 2008, 11:47 PM)
Hmm... I haven't read any of those listed under Fantasy either. Though they're probably more epic or traditional fantasy than urban. Yeah yeah that's why I didn't see 'em... that's it! :doh:

Excellent point. There are sub-genres of both SF and Fantasy. I don't think I've read any "urban" fiction. If I did, I wasn't aware that it was classified that way. Please suggest some titles which are sure to be enjoyed as a gentle introduction to this class of book.

shaunesay - February 28, 2008 02:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (giz-angel @ Feb 28 2008, 02:58 AM)
No no not intimidated elsi, I said I was :scared: :lol:

I have added some of these to my wishlist already and I'm looking forward to seeing some more suggestions.

and yet you read SS?! Girl you are messed up! :lol: :hug: :kiss:

Breeni - February 28, 2008 06:23 PM (GMT)
I almost forgot one of my favorite fantasy authors, Juliet Marillier. Daughter of the Forest, part of the Sevenwaters Trilogy, is a great place to start.

wss4 - February 28, 2008 08:35 PM (GMT)
I absolutely love Tad Williams 'Otherland" series. Probably the best series of books I have ever read. Be warned that they are BIG books though. Each over 600 pages if I recall correctly. I would read them again though!

Otherland
1. City of Golden Shadow (1996)
2. River of Blue Fire (1998)
3. Mountain of Black Glass (1999)
4. Sea of Silver Light (2001)

Otherland: City of Golden Shadow
Otherland. Shrouded by secrecy, it is home to the wildest dreams and darkest nightmares. Incredible amounts of money have been lavished on it. The best minds of two generations have labored to build it. And somehow, bit by bit, it is claiming the Earth's most valuable resource - its children.

Only a few have become aware of the danger. Fewer still are willing or able to take up the challenge of this perilous and seductive realm. But every age has its heroes, and unusual times call for unusual champions.

Renie Sulaweyo, a teacher and the backbone of her family, proud of her African heritage, has fought all her life simply to get by. She has never wanted to be a hero. But when her young brother is struck down by a bizarre and mysterious illness, Renie swears to save him. When people around her begin to die, she realizes she has stumbled onto something she is not meant to know, a terrifying secret from which there is no turning back....

!Xabbu is a Bushman, come to the city to learn skills which may save the spirit of his tribe. With the heart of a poet and the soul of a shaman, he will journey with Renie on this quest into the very heart of darkness....

Paul Jonas is lost, seemingly adrift in space and time. As he flees from the bloody battlefields of World War I to a castle in the sky, and onward to lands beyond imagining, he must not only evade his terrifying pursuers, but solve the terrible riddle of his own identity....

Fourteen-year-old Orlando is also the invincible barbarian Thargor, but only in his imagination. However, youth and frailty are not enough to get you excused from saving the world....

And Mister Sellers, a strange old man on a military base, a prisoner of both the government and his own body, may be the greatest mystery of all. Is he part of The Grail Brotherhood? Does he oppose them? Or, as he sits like a spider at the center of a vast web, does he have ambitions of his own?

The answers will only be found in Otherland....





Tad Williams website

lexilewords - February 28, 2008 10:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Breeni @ Feb 28 2008, 06:23 PM)
I almost forgot one of my favorite fantasy authors, Juliet Marillier. Daughter of the Forest, part of the Sevenwaters Trilogy, is a great place to start.


I second that! AND I forgot my favorite author Maria V. Snyder! How could I?! 'Poison Study', 'Magic Study' and the recently released 'Fire Study'!

giz-angel - February 28, 2008 10:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (shaunesay @ Feb 28 2008, 02:13 PM)
QUOTE (giz-angel @ Feb 28 2008, 02:58 AM)
No no not intimidated elsi, I said I was :scared: :lol:

I have added some of these to my wishlist already and I'm looking forward to seeing some more suggestions.

and yet you read SS?! Girl you are messed up! :lol: :hug: :kiss:

:rofl: :rolleyes:

All true - you know one of the reasons I find some of the books you all like a bit off putting is the covers - I find a lot of them so cheesy (sorry cheesy) and cheap looking, you know? All dragons and long hair. It's like chic lit covers all being generic pink - I *KNOW* how superficial that is but it's true!

And I don't like Terry Pratchett much. I find him jarring. And he is so popular that puts me off too :)

shaunesay - February 28, 2008 10:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (giz-angel @ Feb 28 2008, 04:37 PM)
QUOTE (shaunesay @ Feb 28 2008, 02:13 PM)
QUOTE (giz-angel @ Feb 28 2008, 02:58 AM)
No no not intimidated elsi, I said I was :scared: :lol:

I have added some of these to my wishlist already and I'm looking forward to seeing some more suggestions.

and yet you read SS?! Girl you are messed up! :lol: :hug: :kiss:

:rofl: :rolleyes:

All true - you know one of the reasons I find some of the books you all like a bit off putting is the covers - I find a lot of them so cheesy (sorry cheesy) and cheap looking, you know? All dragons and long hair. It's like chic lit covers all being generic pink - I *KNOW* how superficial that is but it's true!

And I don't like Terry Pratchett much. I find him jarring. And he is so popular that puts me off too :)

someone has fallen prey to the stereotype! :rolleyes: :lol:

There's not a thing wrong with long hair as long as it's GOOD long hair! ;)

CheriePie - February 29, 2008 03:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Breeni @ Feb 28 2008, 01:23 PM)
I almost forgot one of my favorite fantasy authors, Juliet Marillier. Daughter of the Forest, part of the Sevenwaters Trilogy, is a great place to start.

Ahhh okay, there's a Fantasy title that I have heard of and do have on Mt. TBR. :)

Yeah I'm strange in that I generally do consider myself a reader of Fantasy, but it's very much in the urban fantasy sub-genre. I've read very little of the epic fantasy posted here. So would I really be considered a Fantasy reader after all? :shrug:

I will do as elsi suggested though and try to get a list of few titles that classify Urban Fantasy. Off the top of my head, War for the Oaks comes to mind, as does all of Kim Harrison and Kelley Armstrong's books. Jim Butcher's Dresdon Files as well as Simon R. Green's Nightside are key here.

But I'm not really in a relaxed enough frame of mind at the moment (too much else to get done tonight) to be able to put together a proper list. :giggle: So I'll lurk for a bit then put together something later unless someone else does it first. :wink:

Thanks for starting this up, elsi!




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